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Day Six: favorite female-driven show

Buffy the Vampire Slayer
"You have fruit punch mouth."

I think... maybe some people will argue with me over this choice? I don't know, but I stand by. The titular character is female, more than half of the main cast is female, they're all really fucking awesome, and I have always, always loved this show, even - nay, especially! - when it was ridiculous. I love the monster-of-the-week episodes, and the overarching plots, and the dialog and just... everything.

(Okay, so the fact that Buffy took Spike back after the attempted rape never really sat well with me, but in the grand scope of insane, sexist things Whedon has done, I think that's fairly small.)

In the end, it's really just a show about a girl growing up and learning who she is. The fact that she also fights vampires and the forces of darkness is really just a cool bonus.

Date: 2011-03-11 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermeown.livejournal.com
Oh. My God. I just finished re-watching the first season. lols.

I will admit I am not particularly fond of many of the characters (OMGCORDELIAANYASOMETIMESANDDAAWWWWNNN), and the middle few seasons are hit and miss at best. But the first three seasons (and Oz!<3) are pretty sweet.

Date: 2011-03-13 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juxtaposie.livejournal.com
OMG I love Cordelia, but to cut down on the flailing I'll just say: IAWTC

Date: 2011-03-13 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myaibou.livejournal.com
Just finished watching the entire series with my kids. It was so fun to introduce them to it.

The rape thing within the context of the show and how it differs from RL never bothered me. The entire point of that was that, even though Spike was chipped and was starting to act like he got right from wrong, he didn't. And yet, when he did something heinous, he recognized it as heinous and went and did something to make sure that he truly could get right from wrong and would never hurt her again. The repentance was real, the behavior actually changed as a result of it, so I don't have a problem with it. Not to lessen the horror of sexual assault, but the in-universe circumstances were rather unique and I think Spike deserved his second chance.

Date: 2011-03-15 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juxtaposie.livejournal.com
lj keeps eating my comment notifications! boo!

within the context of the show and how it differs from RL

Admittedly, I haven't seen that episode (or most of that season actually) in quite a long time. Perhaps I should give it another go? I've only watched the entire series all the way through once.

Date: 2011-03-15 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myaibou.livejournal.com
Well, the rape scene itself is definitely disturbing, as it's meant to be. And what immediately follows with Spike seems like he's angry at her for rejecting him and he's going off to find a way to get rid of the chip to get revenge. In fact, he's deeply horrified with himself (despite not having a soul) and goes off to get a soul so that he can truly understand and give her "what she deserves" (ie treat her like one souled being should treat another.)

It's season 7 where we see the results, which is basically a much-abbreviated version of what Angel went through when he got his soul. Some insanity from being plagued by guilt by all he'd done, some failed attempts to be either "the hero" or go back to the "big bad," then finally some acceptance. It's quite a nice journey, actually, and I thought it was very, very clear that what he did to Buffy, not to mention the other evil things he's done, were horrific. It took a long time for Buffy to be able to trust him again.

What's remarkable is that even soulless, he was able to recognize that what he did was awful and that he needed to do something to be better in himself. That's something Angel certainly couldn't do. (And it was much of the source of Angel's inner conflict on the last season of his show. As Spike tells him, "Your soul was a curse. A punishment. I fought for mine." But even then, we see moments of Spike being reminded of what he'd done in the past and how awful it was. A crazy slayer tortures him because she thinks he's the sicko who tortured her as a young girl, and it gives him another epiphany that, even though he didn't torture her, he certainly tortured many others like her. I wasn't overly fond of the last two season of Angel, but Spike and Angel and the comparison and contrast of their journeys was fascinating and made it worth it.

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